[yocto] SUSE SLES target OS

Do you mean OpenSuse? Since SLES is only build/provide to you by SUSE directly, it would be the same as trying to build your own RHEL instead of fedora. That would be difficult without theirs repositories ;-)

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Ismael Martínez Dibene

Post by Joe Flowers
Hello everyone,
I need to get started on a Yocto set that will build a minimal core for a target OS of SUSE Linux Enterprise Server on x64 target hardware like a MinnowBoard.
I have scoured the web, SUSE, and this list's (Yocto Project) archives, but have run into no pointers. My guess is that it is right under my nose that can be seen with more experience rather than being hidden behind private walls.
Will someone please get me started on the pointers and downloads I need to get started?
I have already run through a tutorial on creating a core OS using Yocto for a WandBoard target hardware.
Thank you !
Joe
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Joe Flowers

2018-10-19 21:43:16 UTC

Yes, unfortunately, I mean SLES.

Your answer implies that to create a minimal SLES build I will have to
abandon Yocto and look for another build (or reduction) solution as I know
this has been done by non-SUSE entities.

Post by Ismael MartÃnez Dibene
Do you mean OpenSuse? Since SLES is only build/provide to you by SUSE
directly, it would be the same as trying to build your own RHEL instead of
fedora. That would be difficult without theirs repositories ;-)
Saludos / Regards / Mit Freundlichen grÃŒÃen / Atenciosamente
Ismael MartÃnez Dibene

Post by Joe Flowers
Hello everyone,
I need to get started on a Yocto set that will build a minimal core for

a target OS of SUSE Linux Enterprise Server on x64 target hardware like a
MinnowBoard.

Post by Joe Flowers
I have scoured the web, SUSE, and this list's (Yocto Project) archives,

but have run into no pointers. My guess is that it is right under my nose
that can be seen with more experience rather than being hidden behind
private walls.

Post by Joe Flowers
Will someone please get me started on the pointers and downloads I need

to get started?

Post by Joe Flowers
I have already run through a tutorial on creating a core OS using Yocto

for a WandBoard target hardware.

Post by Joe Flowers
Thank you !
Joe
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Burton, Ross

2018-10-21 16:24:35 UTC

If you want to rebuild Suse then the recommended tool is OBS, as
that's what is used to build Suse.

Obviously, building your own SLES isn't SLES, just something that
looks like SLES (says a Centos just looks like, but isn't, RHEL).

Ross

Post by Joe Flowers
Yes, unfortunately, I mean SLES.
Your answer implies that to create a minimal SLES build I will have to abandon Yocto and look for another build (or reduction) solution as I know this has been done by non-SUSE entities.

Post by Ismael MartÃnez Dibene
Do you mean OpenSuse? Since SLES is only build/provide to you by SUSE directly, it would be the same as trying to build your own RHEL instead of fedora. That would be difficult without theirs repositories ;-)
Saludos / Regards / Mit Freundlichen grüßen / Atenciosamente
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Joe Flowers

2018-10-21 16:32:26 UTC

Thank you. All of this is very helpful.

Post by Burton, Ross
If you want to rebuild Suse then the recommended tool is OBS, as
that's what is used to build Suse.
Obviously, building your own SLES isn't SLES, just something that
looks like SLES (says a Centos just looks like, but isn't, RHEL).
Ross

Post by Joe Flowers
Yes, unfortunately, I mean SLES.
Your answer implies that to create a minimal SLES build I will have to

abandon Yocto and look for another build (or reduction) solution as I know
this has been done by non-SUSE entities.

Post by Joe Flowers
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 5:33 PM Ismael MartÃnez Dibene <

Post by Ismael MartÃnez Dibene
Do you mean OpenSuse? Since SLES is only build/provide to you by SUSE

directly, it would be the same as trying to build your own RHEL instead of
fedora. That would be difficult without theirs repositories ;-)

Post by Ismael MartÃnez Dibene
Saludos / Regards / Mit Freundlichen grÃŒÃen / Atenciosamente
Ismael MartÃnez Dibene

Am 19.10.2018 um 16:17 schrieb Joe Flowers <
Hello everyone,
I need to get started on a Yocto set that will build a minimal core

for a target OS of SUSE Linux Enterprise Server on x64 target hardware like
a MinnowBoard.

I have scoured the web, SUSE, and this list's (Yocto Project)

archives, but have run into no pointers. My guess is that it is right
under my nose that can be seen with more experience rather than being
hidden behind private walls.

Will someone please get me started on the pointers and downloads I

need to get started?

I have already run through a tutorial on creating a core OS using

Yocto for a WandBoard target hardware.

Thank you !
Joe
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Gunnar Andersson

2018-10-22 13:09:43 UTC

Post by Joe Flowers
Yes, unfortunately, I mean SLES.
Your answer implies that to create a minimal SLES build I will have to
abandon Yocto and look for another build (or reduction) solution as I know
this has been done by non-SUSE entities.

Hmm... Very interesting, but strange... but interesting... question. Makes
me wonder why you are so set on building SLES for an embedded board?
But that's not for me to second-guess. :-)

As pointed out the family of OpenEmbedded-based systems provide their own
set of build recipes ("layers") and several different reference
distributions (with appropriate patches and so on).

For source availability, I liked the analogy with building RHEL vs Fedora,
although on that side CentOS source distribution is available as a very
close duplicate of RHEL. If you wanted to do something similar to meta-
debian what basis were you thinking of using in order to create your own
SLES if not OpenSUSE? (Actually answering that would veer the thread off-
topic for the list I imagine, I'm just curious).

Related to the topic, the only similar ideas that I have seen floated in the
past involved using Debian source code with OE/Yocto build system. I
suppose the idea for that would be that you have a strong handling of
security updates a compatible basic distro and of course a very large amount
of packages.

I still think it's a fairly strange approach since building Debian using
Debian tooling might suffice in that case (e.g. [2]). You might get a bit
of a larger ecosystem of available BSPs in OpenEmbedded/Yocto environment
and a few additional embedded-targeted components (but a lot are built
with fairly standard setups like cmake anyway). It wasn't clear if you need
a lot of different hardwares or just any board like minnowboard.

I was going to link the meta-debian layer, but it seems the Linutronix
slides cover this and more alternatives, so (for those interested in the
Debian/Yocto idea I mean) just start with that slide deck (and search
GitHub).

[1] https://linutronix.de/en/open-source/vortraege.php (look for slides &
video)
[2] https://apertis.org (not Yocto)

HTH,
- Gunnar

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